The thread needs to continue for obvious reasons, and any community benefits from your participation.

Let me begin by stating that I have been receiving unsolicited e-mail from the various derivatives of iEntry for several years, and with increasing frequency and they are finding my other e-mail adresses as well. And guess what? I just subscribed to this forum yesterday! Obviously, subscribing to the forum is NOT how I became subscribed to the e-mails. I'm not complaining, because I have learned a lot and I WANT to continue receiving the e-mails (otherwise I would have them filtered out and that is that). However, the point of this post is unsolicited e-mail, and the poster is correct; it happens!

Thanks Dave

But WPW still suffers from the Minstrel legacy - some mods, and the admins, still have the same attitude towards me that Minstrel generated. If you've read the "I was banned from WPW" thread here, remember the warnings that I was said to have received? I never received a single warning - neither in private nor in public, but one or more mods lied about it to the new admin, and the attitude from back then still exists.

For instance, Mike wrote that he'd been "supremely accommodating and patient with me through the years". You've been there all the time. Was supreme accommodation and patience with me ever needed? Of course not. It's just their attitude that comes out with such lies.

Mike was way out of order changing that link, and he's not going to apologise. As you know, I've no particular desire to use WPW, and the ban will be meaningless because I don't use the place.

The thread has just been moved to:- http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=66712

mike wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I am intently interested in hearing about any subscription issues. I can fix anything anybody has wrong with their subscriptions. If not, I can see to it getting done at the very least.

Sorry, but after spending considerable time reading all the posts back and forth on this issue, I feel I have to add my 2 cents (perhaps a 3rd party can see things a bit more clearly since there are no emotions involved when I read these posts).

Let me begin by stating that I have been receiving unsolicited e-mail from the various derivatives of iEntry for several years, and with increasing frequency and they are finding my other e-mail adresses as well. And guess what? I just subscribed to this forum yesterday! Obviously, subscribing to the forum is NOT how I became subscribed to the e-mails. I'm not complaining, because I have learned a lot and I WANT to continue receiving the e-mails (otherwise I would have them filtered out and that is that). However, the point of this post is unsolicited e-mail, and the poster is correct; it happens!

Mike, your initial response was good, and it should have ended there. Obviously, there was an emotional response and everything you read after that was taken personally.

mike wrote:
That established, anybody that thinks the opening thread here constituted what I should read as a level headed bid for the discussion of an issue... let's just say we went to different schools about how that should be done. Cause that's a pretty far cry from what I read.

What I won't do is grin and nod and bite my tongue here when I'm being called everything from an idiot to a spammer to a liar by Phil.

From my understanding of what I read was that Phil said he is receiving SPAM from here, but did not say it was from you personally. Are you the owner of the site? I suppose if you are, then you would be correct in taking the matter personally. He also said you might be repeating lies. That is different than calling you a liar.

mike wrote:
You wanna go schoolyard, I can go there too.

Please! Sorry. That comment just isn't professional at all.

mike wrote:
Funky things happen. However, if and when an error occurs I am more than happy to look into and resolve it.

That's more like it! Please stop the bickering and just take care of the problem. The less said, the better you look. You offer to resolve a problem and follow through, and everyone respects you. End of story.

Can we end this now? Please? I don't want to see such a good site go "schoolyard".

Your confirmation email just isn't good enough. It's nothing but an attempt to sneak the newsletter past people. You know darned well that people generally read the first line, realise that they have to click the link to complete the forum subscription, and they click it. Writing about the newsletter lower down is a sneaky way to get subscriptions without people even realising it. If you really want to be open about the newsletter, and get genuine optins, put it in the site's registration pages - in plain site, instead of sneaking it past people in a subsequent email for fear that they won't want it.

I'm disappointed that my suggestion that the newsletter notification be on the web page where you sign up rather than tucked into the confirmation email was completly ignored.. I can't think of anyone that reads those emails before they click..

The idea of sticking something as important as that in an "oh yeah by the way" spot in an email that is simply to verify your email account is a bit "off" to me..

I just checked my email an I recieved a "Sponsor Update" email. Not a newsletter at all IMO. Just an advertisement. This is quite different from a newsletter.

Maybe their confirmation email said that you'd receive a newsletter plus other occasional emails - so in clicking the confirmation link you unwittingly opted in to whatever they feel like sending you

I never signed up for this newsletter. I recently changed webhosts. In other words, I recently moved my website to a different host. And once I had my account up and running at the new host, I enabled E-mail on my domain for the first time. As soon as I created my E-mail address at my domain is when I started getting the newsletters from WebProNews.

So you're saying that submitting to certain directories brings the emails? WPW don't have any directories, do they? Nameeta has submitted on of my sites, and the email address for it doesn't receive any of WPW's newsletters. I would say it's a coincidence if you started to receive their newsletters after a directory submission programme.

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